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« on: April 08, 2007, 01:37:58 PM »

Starting sometime next Sunday, April 15, 2007, we will require all players to have a valid anticheat installation to connect to any of the CTF servers.

http://www.wormlair.com/forum/index.php/topic,2451.msg49847.html#msg49847
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 04:24:17 PM »

Good to read that. How many bad files are allowed? Yeah yeah I have 0
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 06:13:18 PM »

Good, this is gonna be perfect  grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 01:39:05 PM »

Bump for good measure.

And in case you need info on setting up anticheat: http://www.wormlair.com/forum/index.php?topic=2268.0
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 07:57:43 PM »

There is no kick at the moment for lots of bad files? I see people joining with 25+ bad files........ shocked
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 07:03:24 AM »

But you aren't.  smiley

We are allowing bad files with no limit for a period of transition, this will change after an appropriate period of time so I suggest anyone with bad files get rid of them as soon as possible.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 03:57:12 PM »

You may have posted an explaination elsewhere, but I have already been seeing some people with 'exempt from using anti-cheat'.  For those less likely to understand, can you give a some examples of why exceptions have been issued?  It might squash some future postings?

I noticed some side conversations on the servers, which people don't think those exceptions are fair.  Thier arguement is, if it is enforced, then it should be across the board - no exceptions.  Thier arguement is valid, that for a rule to be enforced, it should be followed across the board.

Personally, I have faith in the almighty admins - so I could care less.


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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2007, 04:28:13 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 04:32:39 PM »

*explanation

*can you give a some examples

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*couldn't care less

Gotta pick up DK's slack.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2007, 04:33:24 PM »

Anticheat will run on Windows 2000 and later only, it is not compatible with Win95, 98, ME or any flavor of Linux.

We are open to giving exceptions to some trusted individuals that are unable to run anticheat due to an incompatible operating system.

A couple of examples:

poo plays Railwarz and uses Linux. It is not possible to run anticheat with Linux. I trust poo as there has never been any indication of anything amiss with him so he gets an exemption.

Firearm plays L-Fire CTF and uses WinXP running anticheat from one location. He has another location where he is stuck with Win98 and cannot run anticheat but has plans to upgrade that computer. There has never been any indication of anything amiss with him so he gets an exemption for the Win98 box.

Those are real-world, now for hypothetical:

Player X asks for an exemption saying he can't run anticheat. I check logs and see that he has run it but would rather bitch than try to set it up correctly. Player X can go pee up a rope because he isn't getting an exemption, as much work as we put into this we do not suffer idiots well.

Player Y asks for an exemption saying he can't run anticheat. I check logs and see that he has been logged attempting to use some cheats before. It doesn't matter what operating system player Y uses now as he has shown that he can't be trusted and can join Player X on the same slippery rope.

So it boils down to us doing our best to provide a level playing field as possible to as many as possible. We will give exceptions as we see fit but they will be few and only for the right reasons. The ones that have exceptions are not the ones we suspect of any cheats.

On that subject, we have found a few pretty regular players with cheats and they have now been stopped. I am not releasing any details on this for the time being but It will be interesting to see how they do in games without them.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 07:20:32 PM »

Wow that was pretty bad - I think I am becoming too dependant upon spell check via emails and word documents.  Thanks Wake.  smiley

Great summary Worm - I think that will squash what needs to be squashed.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 07:31:17 PM »

Worm has been totally cool about slowly implementing anticheat and since the q2 game is so pak-able it seems to have been a good idea

q3 is so lame..it forces vanilla

and thanks to the many ppl who bitch about anything, most anybody who have an 'invalid' file are constantly reminded

it seems the new converts are resisting a bit...seen a lot of comments that past couple of days complaining about how 'anticheat is soo choppy'...i have tried to help them out

r1ch seem to have some really tight code and have no probs ...and i really like the new renderer too...it seems to redraw the screen a lot better..alt tab option is cool...optimalvid setting is cool..etc etc

if i ever win the lottery i will donate money to you few guyz who deserve it

btw i dont play the lottery

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2007, 08:08:23 AM »

That reminds me of one of my fav Ween songs,  Piss up a Rope

Goes like this: ( i think he used to date Marla)

My dinners on fire while she watches tv
And if youve ever wondered what its like to be me
She takes all my money and leaves me no smokes
Yells at my buddies and insults my folks
Im breakin my back doin the best that I can
Shes got time for the dog and none for her man
And Im no dope, but I cant cope
So hit the fuckin road and piss up a rope

You can piss up a rope
And you can put on your shoes, hit the road get truckin
Pack your bag, I dont need the ag
On your knees you big, booty bitch start suckin
You ride my ass like a horse in a saddle
Now youre up shits creek with a turd for a paddle
And I cant cope -- piss up a rope

Uh, you can piss up a rope and feel the pissy dribble
You can piss up a rope and watch me giggle
For the last 6 months I been packin your bag
You can wash my balls with a warm, wet rag
Till my balls feel smooth and soft like silk
Im sick of your mouth and your 2 percent milk
And Im no dope, but Ive lost all hope
So hit the fuckin road and piss up a rope.


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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2007, 09:17:27 AM »

I just bought you a lotto ticket Leftovers - I will let you know how you do!
 I have anti loaded on 4 comps now and they all run q2 much better than before. I was THE chief complainer to worm and the others not to mandate  it as I saw what PUNKBUSTER did to Q3 and I did not want our game to suffer the same fate.
  It is not hideous and maybe now we can just accuse other players on the server of being too talented or practiced.
  Thanks are due to R1ch and all the folks that put so much time into it and respond so quickly when something goes buggy.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2007, 09:24:06 AM »

who's punkbuster? is he the yf evil of q3 or somesuch huh huh

or is he worse in such a way that he's like yf*4 or 5

or is it an anticheat thing, that fked up the playing somehow
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